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Vael

The Evil Rule

Okay, ever since the Ms. E getting banned incident people have been complaining about the rule on invites.
However, I don't just want to delete it entirely. Yeah, maybe it is too harsh, but honestly there should be SOME kind of restriction on who comes in. I'd really rather have some guideline and not just "if you think they would do okay."

Does anyone have suggestions?

Note that I still have a restriction up where I have to activate your account, whether you make one here or not.
Nevrmore

I think the rule is perfectly fine as it is. Everyone agrees that we want to keep this place pretty secretive.

The very most that I think should be done is decrease the banning sentence. Maybe to three days. But other than that, keep it intact.
Uberblah

The rule is fine. And the ban should be kept as is. We all know not to invite others, so we should pay the price of that kind of stupidity. Just my two cents though.
Orange Zergling

Yeah, I think the rule is pretty much okay. But as Nevr said, perhaps lower the ban-time (but heighten it every consecutive time - by a lot).
Castaras

Orange_Zergling wrote:
Yeah, I think the rule is pretty much okay. But as Nevr said, perhaps lower the ban-time (but heighten it every consecutive time - by a lot).


No need to post here really, other than to agree completely with this.
DeBunny

*Agreed to by DeBunny who suddenly thinks they need a stamp that says that...*
Fenric

I still maintain that if we are mature enough to be here at all, then we should be trustworthy to invite our friends in.

I would add that if you want to strengthen the "caution", then simply make it poilcy that if you invite someone to the forum and they get punished, then you share in it: they get banned, so do you. We don't have so many people that Excel can't handle such a task easily.

If we really can't be bothered, then at least make two levels of infraction: "I messed up and mentioned it to a good friend without thinking" and "Screw you, I'm inviting this person anyway". Yeah, it means you have to make a judgement call; but at least then you have an out for cases where you know perfectly well that it is the first case.
Wukei

I think if we're mature enough to be here, then we're mature enough to follow the rules set.

It doesn't take much to say "hey, I trust this guy, can we invite him overe"...just one IM.
Fenric

In the abstract you are correct: the rule is simple.

In real life, it is not that simple. This isn't like gmail beta where the invitations really were your ticket in: if you so much as say "Enupnion", then this site can be found. It is quite easy to "invite" someone without actually inviting them at all.

And you can't seriously say that it is reasonable to insist on complete radio silence regarding this place to friends and family.
Vael

If you want to go with "just don't say anything" then all I would prohibit would be giving a link. If they found it themselves and joined, fine, but if you give them a link... just don't.
If you feel it entirely necessary to give a link, then tell them the forum rules, and that they can't join without permission. Then if they join it is their fault.
Wukei

I'm not saying you can't say the word. That's not the case. If you say the word and someone searches it out, I don't think you should be held liable for their actions to look it up. Hell, if someone looked up my screenname they could probably find us.

But if it's a purposeful invite then the person should be punished. The rule states that we shouldn't invite people. That means purposefully giving someone the address and saying "join us."

Quote:
in·vite /v. ɪnˈvaɪt; n. ˈɪnvaɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. in-vahyt; n. in-vahyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -vit·ed, -vit·ing, noun
–verb (used with object) 1. to request the presence or participation of in a kindly, courteous, or complimentary way, esp. to request to come or go to some place, gathering, entertainment, etc., or to do something: to invite friends to dinner.
Moozy

I think there should be another rule added - if Vael gets a request by someone to have their account activated, and he isn't notified via PM who invited this person, he should ask who did it in a public thread. If nobody comes clean after say a week or two, simply don't activate the account. If they post/PM Vael, we should invite them.

The only thing is: if we don't activate their account either because the person who invited them doesn't come clean (it could be that they simply found the site also), or because it's someone we really don't want on our forums, they could just spite us and tell everyone they know about Enupnion. Hell, they could do it even if they were invited.

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