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NecroPaladin

Character metaphors/references/coincidences

Hello, all! I've decided that this thread was long overdue. It's for those little tidbits of information that went into the development of our characters! Things like the name "Clergyman State" being a reference to 'the seperation of Church and State', and so forth. Basically, I got curious because I just found this out:

A bit of an interesting coincidence with Morbius has struck me. The whole theme with him for, oh, the entire summer was that he's analytically focused and emotionally detached. He doesn't (or didn't) really understand the concepts of love or intimacy, or even loss, and had to learn them as he would any other scientific subject.

Well, anyone who knows even vaguely what he looks like will know that Morbius has a metal nose, and does not possess the sense of smell.

And as of recently, I just found something out: Of the 'five' senses (humans actually have seven or eight, but in this case I'm using Sight, Hearing, Taste, Touch, and Smell), smell is the only sense which our brain processes emotionally. The other four are sent to, say, the temporal lobe, or the occipital lobe, and processed, and then emotional connections are made...while smell actually goes right to the limbic system, which feeds directly into our emotions. It's a very pavlov's-dog-esque scenario, in that we more directly associate smell with certain feelings. A lover's perfume may make us aroused, while the same perfume, when one knows that a now-dead parent wore it, can produce sadness.

And thus, it fits Morbius entirely to not be able to smell anything, even though I didn't have that in mind when I made him. Wierd, huh?

Has anything like this happened with your characters?
Darkblade

When I first made Darkblade I intended him to be loyal to whatever cause he found himself in. A friend said when I mentioned Town

Quote:
Darkblade...that has got to be the most treacherous sounding name ever.


About a day after he said that Darkblade ended up betraying KNAVES.
Orange Zergling

It never occurred to me that Oskar is a real name until recently... I think it's a german guy who ran a WoW webcomic for a while. Also, when picking the name, I didn't think that people would think it was a typo of "Oscar". I got a bit pissed off after a few posts of that... Kind of lame, but meh.
Wukei

Just like Jonathon is a mistype of Johnathon or Johnathan?

Or Carey, Kerri, Carrie...

People can be dumb. People can name their kids whatever (including 4real or Superman...) and spell it how they damn well please.

That's why I like Mikhail. I have been asked if it is pronounced "Michael" or if I misspelt it.
Xaspian

I spell my name 'Jonathan'... Only one 'h', one 'o', two 'a's.

Anyway, DeFlora is vaguely derived from something to do with flowers.

Did anyone get what The Pigeon is named after? =Ţ
Moozy

This thread is potentially endless...
Nevrmore

Wukei wrote:
Just like Jonathon is a mistype of Johnathon or Johnathan?

Or Carey, Kerri, Carrie...

People can be dumb. People can name their kids whatever (including 4real or Superman...) and spell it how they damn well please.

That's why I like Mikhail. I have been asked if it is pronounced "Michael" or if I misspelt it.

Oh God, tell me you aren't championing parents misspelling their kids' names to be unique.
NecroPaladin

Moozy wrote:
This thread is potentially endless...


I didn't really intend it to be about naming characters...More about the thought that went behind the characters as a whole.
Wukei

Nevrmore wrote:
Wukei wrote:
Just like Jonathon is a mistype of Johnathon or Johnathan?

Or Carey, Kerri, Carrie...

People can be dumb. People can name their kids whatever (including 4real or Superman...) and spell it how they damn well please.

That's why I like Mikhail. I have been asked if it is pronounced "Michael" or if I misspelt it.

Oh God, tell me you aren't championing parents misspelling their kids' names to be unique.


Actually, there's a point where it gets rediculous. But I like the different spellings because sometimes they mean a completely different thing. Or something spelled completely different might mean the same thing and be from the same source.

IE, Aidan. My character that died? Her reincarnation is Iagan (pronounced like Igon [from Ghost Busters]) I chose that spelling because it can almost sound similar if you pronounce it ee-gaen instead of ee-gone. Their names also mean the exact same thing.
The Chilli God

NecroPaladin wrote:
I didn't really intend it to be about naming characters...More about the thought that went behind the characters as a whole.
But what if the name is really, really profound?

Ooh! Ooh! Are we allowed anecdotes as well?

I've been asked many times about how the heck I could come up with such a name as MURK.
Truth is, I honestly don't know, it was one of those names that pops randomly into your head and then you instantly think Yes. But I've been searching for a way or reason to justify this choice of name. More specifically, why it is written in caps.

My original excuse was that MURK is so awesome that he needed capital letters to contain the pure awesomeness. (This is why most names begin in capital letters, because everyone is capable of some degree of awesomeness. Except for those usernames that don't have capitals - they'd explode if they tried to do anything awesome)
But MURK at his usual awesomeness would only be able to cover three capital letters, it was agreed between a certain God of Awesome and I. That last letter there is just a buffer, in case MURK does something that breaks the three-capital-letter mark. That, and having three capital letters in your name would be the reverse of awesome (the dreaded anti-awesome!), and I wasn't going for that.

Earlier last week, I came across another rather ingenious way to justify it. You know in several of the old video games (like, for example, Pokémon) where every important term is spelt in capital letters?
"Hello, RED! My name is FROY! I need you to deliver these POKéBALLS to PROF. OAK. Can you do that for me, RED?"
Come on, just say that out loud and make each word in capitals louder or otherwise stronger than the other words. It's hilarious.
MURK is the perfect example of one of those people. His player just didn't bother to go to the Name Rater or hit Select so he could access the lower case letters.
..."I choose you! MURK!"
*Ker-PokéSummon!* "MURK!"
Fenric

Let's see...

Fenric is a minor mutation of "Fennec" - the variety of fox with really huge ears. I though it was spelled "Fennic", and changed one "n" to an "r". It was later that someone pointed out Fenris.... oh well. No, Loki's son has nothing at all to do with him. He is my second D&D character, and his backstory is a heavily embellished version of the campaign history. (( My first character, Thonar, has yet to make anything beyond a cameo. ))

Krystal is spelled that way because of my dog, Krysty: an 11 year old sable-merle rough collie, and a puppy of one of my other dogs. Krystal is more than a little based on my dog. Her name is spelled that way because the traditional spelling, Christie, is derived from "Christ", and therefore wasn't perhaps the best thing to name an animal.

"Myobu" is the proper title for Inari's fox messengers. It is technically a feminine imperial court title, granted to the messengers by imperial decree. I use it for the male fox, because in most western languages, that is a masculine ending.
"Myobi" is Myobu with a feminine ending, as far as anyone speaking either a Latin or Germanic based language would expect. Smile

Inari really is the Shinto goddess of Rice, Foxes, Fertility, and material wealth. The main temple is just outside of Kyoto, and I hope to visit before too much longer. She is a significantly ancient Kami, and my description of the development of the goddess is mostly in line with current anthropogical theory.

I play these fox creatures 'cause I'm a furry. duh.

I take my Japanese names from www.behindthename.com: I neither speak nor read Japanese.
Wukei

Fenric wrote:
It was later that someone pointed out Fenris.... oh well. No, Loki's son has nothing at all to do with him.


That was me, when Fenrisulfr first showed up in Town.
McBish

Darn I thought Fenric was a referance to the viking curse thing in an old Doctor Who epsiode.

Lillah really shoud be Lilah I think. I got it from a Flogging Molly song De'Lillah. I think it was just spelled wrong by whoever I uploaded it from. Other than that most of my names are random. Or stolen from something.
Kyrian

Lillah stays Lillah, I like it =P
Shadow of the Sun

I named Sunn after a metal band, SunnO))). Who named themselves after a brand of guitar amps, Sunn.
Exachix

The Chilli God wrote:
Earlier last week, I came across another rather ingenious way to justify it. You know in several of the old video games (like, for example, Pokémon) where every important term is spelt in capital letters?
"Hello, RED! My name is FROY! I need you to deliver these POKéBALLS to PROF. OAK. Can you do that for me, RED?"


Hehehe.
I was talking to a friend, and I had Caps Lock on by accident, and so I typed;
HEH. My friend (and now me) both have this image of me shouting "HEH" at the top of my voice.

I just sort of... made the names for Exachix, Lorrian, Karaki. Karsen is the same.
Tussa is a RPer in an MMO that I play. I kinda just mucked about the letters a bit to get Tessa. Although I didn't mean any link.
Mitsuya (and Kawatu) are variants of 2 names off a Name gen.
Liselle is a character from the Malloreon and the Belgariad. I just stole her name. And the fact she works in an intelligence group =D. The setup for the group is a mix of what I know from the Rebel Alliance 'cells' setup, the Drasnian Intelligence setup, and what else I thought would be a good idea =D.
The other ones, I have no idea.
Obsidian Blade

Well... the names Lakshmi and Gabriel are rather blatantly obvious references to the fact that they were born and raised in a religious environment. Lakshmi is the Hindu goddess of wealth, prosperity, beauty, love, fertility, and a whole string of other things that vary depending on who you ask, while Gabriel is an archangel and the messenger of God.

Most of my other names came from either taking a name I liked and screwing it up beyond recognition, or just stringing sounds together until it sounded plausible that someone might be called that.

In short, I lack subtlety when I name people.
Castaras

Castaras is the name of a small picturesque spanish town.

Completely coincidence. I had no idea when I first created Castaras oooo...a year or two ago now(woah...that long ago?! Shocked) that the random string of letters would end up being this town.

Yeah. Most of my names are just random names made up on the spur of the moment.

Except last names. I steal those from my source books. <.< >.>
Wukei

Wukei's the only 'original' name I have.

For those who don't know, on a forum I used to play on my sn was Wufei_Koibito (which is improper. It should read Koibito no WuFei.) People shortened it to Wukei (so as not to be confused with Wufei, my favourite Gundam character.) Of course, some called me Wookie, etc. But Wukei just sorta stuck.
Orange Zergling

Oh yes, Obsidian reminded me.

Raverak's name was inspired by Rashaverak, a main assistant of Astaroth, who is considered a prince of Hell. I liked the name, and shortened it to hide any biblical overtones. Also, I liked Raverak because it reminded me of the word ravager, which sort of fits him.
Deadly

Hmm, let's start with Tenshin and Tentei

The names Tenshin and Tentei, as is mentioned in the character thread, are supposed to mean Zenith and Nadir in Japanese. I'm unsure if anyone who actually speaks japanese would agree, but the dictionary said so and that was how I chose the names. They were supposed to be manifestations of the concepts Zenith and Nadir, so that Tenshin constantly strove to achieve the highest possible state, while Tentei just faded to absolute nothingness, taking the world with him. So Tentei was actually a manifestation of pure Destruction/Annihilation/Void, while Tenshin was a manifestation of pure Creation/Existence.

They were meant to constantly battle each other, and sometimes one would win, but only for a time. So, they would fight, one would win and destroy the other, a time would pass, the other would return and they would start over, and that would go on forever. Tenshin came to Town just after having supposedly beaten Tentei. In Town she then waited and prepared for his return.

Their number of tails were supposed to be an indicator of their state, sort of. Tenshin had 5 tails when entering Town, but would always strive towards 9. She would reach 9 tails once she reached the highest state (Zenith). Tentei, on the other hand, would probably strive towards one tail, starting at nine, though that idea seemed somehow wrong and I've tried out other explanations.

I imagined that at the time they battled they would both have reached their final state, and once one was beaten they would both return to the first state. So Tenshin would return to one tail, and Tentei would return to nine. However, the one who won would in fact retain a higher state, which is why Tenshin had 5 tails. It could be compared to Hit Points, Tentei died so he had no HP (no tails, which returns him to 9 tails), but Tenshin won so she obviously survived and had some HP left (in this case she won greatly, having 5 tails left). Maybe an odd comparison, but I think it works as an explanation.

I realise that this is far from how Fenric sees/plays the kitsune, but Town is wierd and I'm sure I could come up with some "Other Dimension" explanation Very Happy Unfortunatly I ended up having so many problems explaining this and figuring out their plot, not to mention actually playing them right, that I've now given up. I also ended up disliking Tentei being a tool for another "Destroy the World" plot. Tentei is gone now, and Tenshin is simply a regular Kitsune, atleast until I can make the above work and make sense.

I've had so many headaches over these two characters and their plot.
Darkblade

Er'n Kelli is two letters removed from my old girlfriend's name.

Virus comes from a guy in friend's attampted novel. That guy named from a Slipknot song The Virus of Life. ~Braces for batteries and rotten food~

General Hamilton is named after a rascist city near Toronto.

The Nightwatchman well this explains it better than me.
Xaspian

Co-incidences? I think that Pelgof was unintentionally inspired by the character Quick Ben in the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. I didn't realise it when I made the character, but they both use shadow and illusion magic, and they both have several souls in their one body... But it wasn't intentional, I think. Since I realised this I tried to differ Pelgof from Quick Ben a bit, and their personalities aren't too similar anyway, but still... that's a co-incidence.
DivineAmour

The Band is a town version of the Beatles. They have the British accents, the cheeky humor and anagram names.

Lenn J Nohon=John Lennon
Trayen Lurccamp=Paul McCartney
Geon Sirroagher=George Harrison
Tarin Sorrg=Ringo Starr
The_Librarian

In the past week my partner pointed out that "Greeny" is slang for bogies. Poor guy, I honestly didn't mean to name him Bogey Wolf. Greeny was originally grey and called Lucan after my Neverwinter Nights animal companion, until I saw there was a grey wolfish character called something rather similar...

The Librarian didn't have a name for a while. I was content to leave her without a name until Aikifox wondered if he could call her Libby for short, so you have Aiki to blame for her having a name Very Happy I needed a good reason why she was hesitant to give her name, so the fugitive bit fitted, as did the Clawgravian superstition re. their names.

Jonah was originally going to be spelt Geona, but I decided I preferred the J and the H Smile Oddly enough, Geomancer also has a character called Jonah. It amuses me that her original name was going to be closer to his username.

Stran is just "strange" missing the g and e. Tanon Sharpe (briefly seen) is a name Keffren has previously used as an alias.
Nevrmore

All of my characters are theme-named. All of them.

I just don't feel right if they aren't. If you can figure out what the meanings are behind them all, you'll win the grand prize. If you can't, I'll just tell you. Maybe.
Moozy

Plot... hmm... named for... plot?
Wukei

That's why I named mine Plot...
Nevrmore

That's one down, like twelve more to go.
DeBunny

I'll have it known that none of my characters that I'm consciously aware of (or can remember) are based off of anything.

Except my occasionally popping up Pikmin guy.
Nevrmore

I'll give three of them two you:

1. Descartes is named for Rene Descartes. "I think, therefore I am."

2. Floyd is named after Pink Floyd (thus, the pink text.)

3. Hawk Geldof is a little more obscure. "Hawk" is named for the hawk of war, indicating his military background. Geldof is the last name of singer Bob Geldof, who portrayed Pink in Pink Floyd's film version of "The Wall." Why did I choose this last name? Because towards the end of the movie, Pink goes crazy and assumes himself to be a neo-nazi general, and the militaristic look his character takes is what I originally based Hawk's design off of.

And now you know.
Flabbicus

I'm to lazy to look up all of the definitions for the Latinesque character names...

But Crucius is obviously torture, and Onus is either burden, or, um, a fetus.
NecroPaladin

Nevrmore wrote:
I'll give three of them two you:

1. Descartes is named for Rene Descartes. "I think, therefore I am."

2. Floyd is named after Pink Floyd (thus, the pink text.)

3. Hawk Geldof is a little more obscure. "Hawk" is named for the hawk of war, indicating his military background. Geldof is the last name of singer Bob Geldof, who portrayed Pink in Pink Floyd's film version of "The Wall." Why did I choose this last name? Because towards the end of the movie, Pink goes crazy and assumes himself to be a neo-nazi general, and the militaristic look his character takes is what I originally based Hawk's design off of.

And now you know.


HEY! I was about to give the Descartes thing.

On a seperate note, Crucius' bardiche is shaped like a crucifix.
J. Muller

@Nevr: Absinthe is a potent and potentially toxic alcohol.

Pretty much all my characters are named referentially. Except Chase and Ronnie, as I made them up myself. But otherwise:

--Robert Fowler: Named after a Lord Mayor of London from the 1800s.

--Mercury deSade: Her first name comes from... oh come on people, I shouldn't have to explain this one.

--Vincent: Named after Vincent Price. Since he's a necromancer and all.

--Stephen Foster: Reference to a Squirrel Nut Zippers song.

--Phlogg's Floggers: "Phlogg" is a takeoff on "Phogg", the last name of the main character from Around The World In Eighty Days.
Destro Yersul

Ebola, Leprosy and Typhus are all particularly nasty diseases.
Exachix

Nevrmore *hazards*
Never-more. I will do this, nevermore (I will never do this any more).
OR: Quoth the Raven, Nevermore, from Either the Alan Parsons Project's Tales of Mystery and Imagination, or Edgar Allan Poe's 'Raven'.
I have that feeling I am right out.
Castaras

Exachix wrote:
Nevrmore *hazards*
Never-more. I will do this, nevermore (I will never do this any more).
OR: Quoth the Raven, Nevermore, from Either the Alan Parsons Project's Tales of Mystery and Imagination, or Edgar Allan Poe's 'Raven'.
I have that feeling I am right out.


Whenever I think of Nevrmore's name, I always think of an undead monster spirit ghost thing from Spellforce: Order of Dawn.

I think I've played that game too much. <.<
Darkblade

Exachix wrote:
Nevrmore *hazards*
Never-more. I will do this, nevermore (I will never do this any more).
OR: Quoth the Raven, Nevermore, from Either the Alan Parsons Project's Tales of Mystery and Imagination, or Edgar Allan Poe's 'Raven'.
I have that feeling I am right out.


Don't say that you'll envoke his ire and be put on the list. For more information on the list click here.
Warpfire

Unless he's actually trying to be on The List.
Nevrmore

You guys are right so far. Whee.
Geomancer

See, none of my characters names have any real significance at all. Or most of them at least.

They are either related in some way to my own name (English or Hebrew), or related to whatever I am thinking of at the time.

Except for a rare few that are from latin roots.

And Tikva, which I named ironically, because the meaning of Tikva in Hebrew is the opposite of any feeling he causes someone to feel.
Exachix

Nevrmore wrote:
You guys are right so far. Whee.


What? I am right?!

WHOO!

Which one?
wxdruid

Several of my characters come out of books that I have read. Names/characters that I liked.
Nevrmore

Exachix wrote:
Nevrmore wrote:
You guys are right so far. Whee.


What? I am right?!

WHOO!

Which one?

Oh, not you.
Wukei

I knew there was something wrong with picking Naida as a name, though whoever helped me with the name (I believe it was Hawkeye) favoured it more than the other choice.

Naida is an anogram of Aidan. And since it's a 'mystery' what happened to Aidan, everyone that likes A seems to favour Naida...I think it might be a subconscious connection.
NecroPaladin

Fine, then. If character names are the things that interest us most, then I'll oblige.

Namesake: He named himself. He couldn't remember a thing so he called himself "Namesake" out of irony because he didn't have one.

Clergyman State: Easily the most obvious. Clergyman State represents all that is wrong with a government in which the leader believes that he is justified because he percieves himself as righteous in the eyes of a higher power. In this case, I just added to the sheer narcissism in that concept by making Clergyman State's 'higher power' Clergyman State.

Revenant: A corpse that comes back for revenge. He's named this out of irony because it wasn't his will to come back to life, and that aside he's a shy, unassuming type (until he goes bats**t crazy).

Deckard Dark and Dexter Darkling: Deckard's name is a reference to the Art Deco movement, and it shows physically and socially. He's a greedy type who likes to show off his hard-earned mercenary clout, which makes him come off as a bit of an ass (which granted, he actually isn't), and one must note that the Art Deco movement fizzled when people began seeing it as an symbol of needless luxury and impractical spending. Physically, his whole design is jumbled and mismatched in such a matter as to mesh together, much like said movement. His last name is Dark because I wanted an easy alliteration and because I've always wanted a character whose name was structured, 'adjective-ling'

Malleo A. Quatis: From a basic root of 'mal aqua' or 'bad water.' He is, after all, a crazy chemist. You wouldn't want to drink anything he gives you.

Morbius E. Quatis: The Quatis part is really only to emphasize that he's got remnants of the same insanity as Malleo. His name is Morbius only because I wanted an "M" name to the effect of the word 'grim' because of his rather twisted past (recently revealed in its whole in the Tomb of Mor'Illorum). I got 'morbid' and tweaked it a bit.

Edward Redd: A combination of Edward Teach (Blackbeard) and Redbeard. That's all there is to it.

Red-Cap Rose and the Iron Woodsman: Red Riding Hood combined with Sleeping Beauty, partnered with a manlier moniker for the Tin Woodsman.

Chuck McNormalGuy: All-American action hero. Just read the name a few times and you'll get a feeling akin to punching (insert Nazi, terrorist, mobster, or other cliche here) off a cliff, and then again during the slow-mo replay.

Awesome.

Hullaballoo and Widdershins: Both words for chaos. Widdershins, specifically, means 'counterclockwise,' which fits a clockwork robot perfectly.
Darkblade

NecroPaladin wrote:

Namesake: He named himself. He couldn't remember a thing so he called himself "Namesake" out of irony because he didn't have one.


I thought that was because he was your Namesake being the Necropaladin?
NecroPaladin

Darkblade wrote:
NecroPaladin wrote:

Namesake: He named himself. He couldn't remember a thing so he called himself "Namesake" out of irony because he didn't have one.


I thought that was because he was your Namesake being the Necropaladin?


I meant to say that, but then moved on and didn't go back Confused . Yes, that's the OOC reason he's called that. Dammit, I only gave the IC version and didn't realize it. Good memory, Darkblade!
Shadow of the Sun

Well, I suppose I'll mention my newest character, Walter Caskov.

Walter has three major influences in how he acts and so on; first is Rorschach from Watchmen by Alan Moore. Rorschach influenced him in how I post with him; each post is an excerpt from Walter's journal. Hell, even his name is based on Rorschach- Walter Caskov, Walter Kovacs.

Second is Marv from Sin City by Frank Miller. Marv influenced his violence and use of torture; I based Walter's first killing on the way Marv kills Kevin in Sin City.

Third is the song Israel's Son by Silverchair. That song is the major core to WHY Walter kills, and WHY he's so horribly misanthropic. Have a looksee at the lyrics and you'll probably see it:

"Hate is what I feel for you,
And I want you to know that I want you dead.
You're late for the execution...
If you're not here soon, I'll kill your friend instead.

All the pain I feel
Couldn't start to heal
Although I would like it to

I hate you and your apathy.
You can leave, you can leave, I don't want you here.
I'm playing this pantomime,
But I don't see you showing any signs of fear.

All the pain I feel
Couldn't start to heal
Although I would like it to
This time I'm for real
My pain can not heal
You will be dead when I'm through

Pain and execution
Put your hands in the air
Put your hands in the air
The air... yeah

I am, I am Israel's son
Israel's son I am
Put your hands in the air
Put your hands in the air"


And, well, yeah. That's my three major influences for Walter.
Flabbicus

Let's start waaaaay back with my first character:

Rilik: I just sort of made the name I guess, not particularly sure where it came from. And if spelled backwards it is pronounced like "Killer", which fit with his (if silly) backstory and is entirely accidental. The evil fiends that were chasing him had some latin-derived names as well, but all I can remember is that the head honcho's name meant "plague" or something similar.

Olbrecht Corvus: His first name is the German form of Albert (IIRC) and his last name, Corvus, is the latin word for crow and raven, symbolizing his view on the irrelevance on moral good and evil since they are both scavengers.

Flabbicus: My username and character's name came from me Romanizing the ending of the word "flabby."

Myles Asynder: It just sounded like an awesome name and "asunder" is a great word to turn into a last name. Also, he was meant as a reference to the Green Knight. Didn't have much cause to play him though.

Zahtem: Meaningless name that is edited from the real-world equivalent.

Waldron Myrddin: His first name also means "raven" (Razz). His last name is the first name of Myrddin Wyllt, the medieval Welsh prototype of the modern depiction of Merlin.

Project Anodynum: Another Latin word, it means "painkiller," which is fitting considering his body is perpetually hopped up on anodynes (more accurately morphine, but whatever). He also uses needles, both syringes and otherwise.

Desiderius Tempronius Tenebrae: His first name, Desiderius, is the first name of renowned Christian humanist Desiderius Erasmus, which I thought would be an ironic name for a proprietor of questionable goods and products.

Fosa Zibett the Mad Scientist and Mel his Green Lackey: You have to guess to guess this one, and, all things considered, it shouldn't be too hard, even more so if you've checked on the "Yon Spooky Castle" thread.

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